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Physicians to Appeal 'Docs v. Glocks' Ruling in FL



A Florida law prohibiting doctors from talking with patients about gun safety is upheld by a three-judge panel in the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, but an injunction blocking the law remains in effect.



7 comments on "Physicians to Appeal 'Docs v. Glocks' Ruling in FL"
Asok Asus (7/30/2014 at 5:01 PM)

Why would a physician focus on guns unless it was simply because they had an anti-gun agenda? There are far more dangerous items in households than guns, such as cars, motorcycles, bleach, antifreeze, farm equipment, ladders, poisons, chain saws, table saws, knives, fireworks, gasoline cans, lawn mowers, and improperly stored and cooked raw chicken. In fact, why would a physician ask about ANY of this stuff at all unless the reason for the visit was because of an accident with one of the above? Why would ANY of this be any business of the physician (or government) unless said item caused the injury being treated? I mean, what's the physician going to do with this information, say, gun possession? Keep records to turn over to the government? Lecture or teach gun safety because the physician is an expert about that? Does it actually serve the sick patient's interest for the physician to spend a chunk of their extremely limited face time asking irrelevant questions and gathering unrelated personal data instead of trying to actually focus on curing the sick patient? Isn't a cure why a patient sought out the doctor in the first place? What they are paying the doctor for? How would you like to pay a plumber, auto mechanic, or electrician to interrogate you about your gun ownership or your medical problems for that matter instead of fixing what you hired them to fix? FACTS TO PONDER : (A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000. (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are120,000. (Calculation) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171. Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now think about this: Guns: (A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000. (Yes, that's 80 million..) (B) The number of accidental gun death per year, all age groups, is 1,500. (Calculation) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .000188. Statistics courtesy of FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR. From: Truth or fiction.com
Rfhod (7/30/2014 at 8:58 AM)

I don't understand the ruling. The patient can always refuse to provide the information about whether they have guns and refuse to discuss gun safety with their physician. It's not like the physician can force them to talk about it.
H Brownstein (7/30/2014 at 7:54 AM)

Physicians ask patient personal questions that can affect the patients health all the time. I f you are a gun owner what are you affraid of? The NRA restriction on free speech should not be allowed by the courts
s.l.hansen (7/29/2014 at 8:19 PM)

USA's gun harm stats are an abomination, and it's malpractice for docs or therapists NOT to ask about suicidal or violent ideation or proximate means of gun availability for a patient to effect such crimes.
mark hamill (7/29/2014 at 11:32 AM)

the NRA is constantly trying to shut down any discussion of dangers or research about the dangers posed by guns. Pediatricians have always spoken about gun safety to families[INVALID]not about the politics of gun rights. This Florida law is a complete disgrace and unconstitutional.
Charles Carter (7/29/2014 at 10:11 AM)

Privacy, especially in the era of government run healthcare, is a matter of serious concern. If the IRS and HHS has access to a person's medical records how much of a stretch of the imagination is it to believe that an abuse of power in law enforcement might include accessing those records. As for the 108,000 killed or injured in firearm related violence, these physicians would be better served focusing on the practice of evidence based medicine since, according to an NPR arctcle " In 1999, the Institute of Medicine published the famous "To Err Is Human" report, which [INVALID]ped a bombshell on the medical community by reporting that up to 98,000 people a year die because of mistakes in hospitals. The number was initially disputed, but is now widely accepted by doctors and hospital officials [INVALID] and quoted ubiquitously in the media. In 2010, the Office of Inspector General for the Department of Health and Human Services said that bad hospital care contributed to the deaths of 180,000 patients in Medicare alone in a given year. Now comes a study in the current issue of the Journal of Patient Safety that says the numbers may be much higher [INVALID] between 210,000 and 440,000 patients each year who go to the hospital for care suffer some type of preventable harm that contributes to their death. That would make medical errors the third-leading cause of death in America, behind heart disease, which is the first, and cancer, which is second." Stay focused on the real issue, which is the practice of better medicine.
Jon Royal (7/29/2014 at 9:27 AM)

I totally agree. The physicians office is absolutely no place for a gun safety course, and please tell me where in med school any gun safety training was provided. I see this as one more way to add time to the visit just to line a providers pockets. As a patient I go to my provider to have a current health issue fixed, not to be questioned if I own firearms. What's next will I be asked if I own a motorcycle, and if I wear a helmet or better yet do I drive a vehicle of any type. We can turn the doctors office into the DMV and get even less accomplished.